[Mesa-users] MESA in cloud computing (AWS for example?)

Tue Feb 21 09:06:11 UTC 2023

Hi Liza,

> I have plenty of grant money (but not much!) and our system here does not allow us to buy new physical HPC/upgrade the old system so that's why I am looking for a cloud computing option.

How old is the "old" HPC system?  I quite often specifically use the older nodes on University clusters because they're fast enough and had shorter queues.  If you haven't already, it might be worth giving it a try.

Cheers,
Warrick

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Warrick Ball
Senior Research Software Engineer
University of Birmingham
W.H.Ball at bham.ac.uk

On Mon, 20 Feb 2023, Norhasliza Yusof via Mesa-users wrote:

> Hi Bill, Willie and Frank,
> Thanks for all the feedback.
> 
> Willie, is it too expensive to use AWS for MESA? May I know roughly how much do you spend for it? 
> 
> Bill, thanks for the information about Google Cloud. What kind of application/work that you run using Google Cloud if you don't mind sharing?
> 
> Probably I didn't mention why I need computing power for students, in this case it is for grad students (both MSc and PhD) not for the bachelor's degree program so
> mesa-web is not sufficient for the research requirement. 
> 
> I have plenty of grant money (but not much!) and our system here does not allow us to buy new physical HPC/upgrade the old system so that's why I am looking for a
> cloud computing option.
> 
> Liza
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> On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 11:10 PM Wolf, William M via Mesa-users <mesa-users at lists.mesastar.org> wrote:
>       I second Frank’s suggestion. If mesa-web is sufficient, it’s an excellent option.
>
>       Another option is to have students use mesa docker. Depending on the resolution and nuclear network, weaker student machines might become RAM starved,
>       though.
>
>       Otherwise, google cloud platform does (or did) offer educational grants for use in classes. I didn’t use it for mesa, but I had a decent experience with
>       them for other educational endeavors.
>
>       Good luck!
>
>       Bill
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>       > On Feb 19, 2023, at 1:28 AM, Willie Strickland via Mesa-users <mesa-users at lists.mesastar.org> wrote:
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>       > I experimented with AWS virtual machines and successfully installed and ran MESA models, but found it unsatisfactory for my needs.  My recollection is
>       that I could not get fast enough processing per dollar within my budget.
>       >
>       > That was several years ago.
>       >
>       > Willie
>       >
>       >> On Feb 18, 2023, at 22:40, Francis Timmes via Mesa-users <mesa-users at lists.mesastar.org> wrote:
>       >>
>       >> hi liza,
>       >>
>       >> if you mean cloud resources for educational purposes, then visit mesa-web
>       >>
>       >>https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fuser.astro.wisc.edu%2F~townsend%2Fstatic.php%3Fref%3Dmesa-web%23Using_MESA-Web&data=05%7C01%7Cwolf
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>       >> fxt
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>       >>>> On Feb 16, 2023, at 11:34 PM, Norhasliza Yusof via Mesa-users <mesa-users at lists.mesastar.org> wrote:
>       >>>
>       >>> Hello mesa-user,
>       >>>
>       >>> Anyone has experience in using MESA to calculate models using cloud computing? Currently I have limited resources for my students and I'm looking
>       for options to do calculations for example massive stars models until pre-supernova stage using cloud computing. 
>       >>>
>       >>> Best regards,
>       >>>
>       >>> Liza
>       >>> Dr. Norhasliza Yusof
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>       >>> Jabatan Fizik | Department of Physics
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