[Mesa-users] ppisn problem for version r15140

Jing-Ze Ma mjz18 at mails.tsinghua.edu.cn
Fri Feb 12 01:55:52 UTC 2021


Hi Jeremy and Rob,


I will test whether the overshooting makes a difference.


I checked my runs again. My previous descriptions are not accurate. Sorry about that.


For the initial mass 90 case, it is a timestep issue. It's stuck during the first pulse,
limited by rel_E_err. I tried relaxing the rel_E_err and it would go to PISN if there's no
restriction to rel_E_err, but the rel_run_E_err in the end would exceed one and even reach
3d6. Is the result still accurate in this case?


For the initial mass 70, 80 and 130, it is not a timestep issue but an eos issue. For initial
mass 70 and 80, I encounter this error during first pulse: STOP store_eos_for_cell. I am
attaching the detailed error messages for initial mass 80 below. It appears that this error
occurs because chiRho is negative in a cell. For initial mass 130, this error occurs at the 
start before the star reaches zams, but this time with chiT becoming negative. Is there 
something wrong with the eos module?


Thanks a lot!


Jing-Ze












6230   9.427885  2.724E+05 -10.132083  14.413046  55.823677   0.000000   0.000000   0.000000   0.206857  -1.351332   2571    113
  -8.571526   9.427885  -0.243902   9.657944  13.879472 -99.000000  55.823677   0.000000   0.000859   0.793143   0.603572      7
 2.8667E+05   5.942989   6.207619  14.413039  15.231187  -7.345689  50.971311   0.000004   0.000000   0.523225 -0.522E+01  max increase
                       log_rel_run_E_err       -6.8841426610506717
                               rel_E_err    1.0771739437516366D-10


 Layers above q=  0.99997138383057271      will be removed
 checking for conditions inside q=  0.98999999999999999      of material that will remain
 check time left  -2917.0039062500000     
 max vel inside fraction of cutoff   2326.8559735993372     
 max c/cs inside fraction of cutoff  0.75639178298219301     
 average v/vesc outside cutoff   1.1069313368475859     
 Kinetic plus potential energy outside cutoff   3.0312108091249601E+047
 mass inside cutoff         255   55.822079370378468     
 relax counter           0
 log max v [km/s]=   4.0976555779636046     
 check gamma integral  -2.0101078635384222E-002
 check log_power_nonnuc_neutrinos   13.879471344490488     
 check limits  -1.0000000000000000      F
 check limits  -1.0000000000000000      F
                                               s% cp(k)         196   -9.8987695056480303D+07
                                           s% csound(k)         196    9.7234896802960511D+05
                                              s% lnP(k)         196    2.5381314900957399D+01
                                              s% gam(k)         196    3.1282200763322361D+01
                                                s% P(k)         196    1.0543019382502361D+11
                                             s% Pgas(k)         196    1.0543014229406288D+11
                                              s% rho(k)         196    4.9881424453699880D-01
                                                s% T(k)         196    6.7233329272738105D+04
                                                 logRho         196   -3.0206115295715935D-01
                                                   logT         196    4.8275846172636419D+00
                                                   abar         196    9.1200845152431729D+00
                                                   zbar         196    4.5600178500854414D+00




                                           xa(j,k) neut           1           7         196    0.0000000000000000D+00
                                             xa(j,k) h1           2           8         196    1.1031262053683091D-73
                                           xa(j,k) prot           3           9         196    0.0000000000000000D+00
                                            xa(j,k) he3           4          10         196    3.3798557273136051D-61
                                            xa(j,k) he4           5          11         196    2.0685354055513600D-01
                                            xa(j,k) c12           6          12         196    4.0210417728267156D-01
                                            xa(j,k) n14           7          13         196    1.4255486044940682D-17
                                            xa(j,k) o16           8          14         196    3.9038973864469223D-01
                                           xa(j,k) ne20           9          15         196    2.3209191219840868D-04
                                           xa(j,k) mg24          10          16         196    2.7248354217588948D-04
                                           xa(j,k) si28          11          17         196    3.7762939232073791D-05
                                            xa(j,k) s32          12          18         196    2.4602379843364616D-05
                                           xa(j,k) ar36          13          19         196    4.8110795700869308D-06
                                           xa(j,k) ca40          14          20         196    3.7230826605135139D-06
                                           xa(j,k) ti44          15          21         196    0.0000000000000000D+00
                                           xa(j,k) cr48          16          22         196    0.0000000000000000D+00
                                           xa(j,k) cr56          17          23         196    0.0000000000000000D+00
                                           xa(j,k) fe52          18          24         196    0.0000000000000000D+00
                                           xa(j,k) fe54          19          25         196    4.4318594406703750D-06
                                           xa(j,k) fe56          20          26         196    7.2636722379313065D-05
                                           xa(j,k) co56          21          27         196    0.0000000000000000D+00
                                           xa(j,k) ni56          22          28         196    0.0000000000000000D+00
                                              sum(xa) =    1.0000000000000000D+00
                                                Pgas =     1.0543014229406288D+11
                                             logPgas =     1.1022964792665055D+01
                                                 rho =     4.9881424453699880D-01
                                                   T =     6.7233329272738105D+04
                                                logQ =     2.0427696125155563D+00


                                     eos_frac_OPAL_SCVH    0.0000000000000000D+00
                                          eos_frac_HELM    1.0000000000000000D+00
                                          eos_frac_Skye    0.0000000000000000D+00
                                            eos_frac_PC    0.0000000000000000D+00
                                       eos_frac_FreeEOS    0.0000000000000000D+00
                                           eos_frac_CMS    0.0000000000000000D+00


                                                   P =     1.0543019382502361D+11
                                                Prad =     5.1530960725490186D+04
                                                logP =     1.1022965004934580D+01
                                                logS =     8.3109123444815847D+00
                                                logE =     1.1501117629216845D+01
                                              energy =     3.1704260607226141D+11
                                               grada =     1.4156911241628548D-01
                                               dE_dT =     5.4302443012817547D+07
                                             dE_dRho =    -4.6637360912631689D+12
                                                  cp =    -9.8987695056480303D+07
                                              gamma1 =     4.4731983634010390D+00
                                              gamma3 =     1.6332667219686661D+00
                                                 eta =     7.8265115288534104D-01
                                                 gam =     3.1282200763322361D+01
                                                  mu =     1.6402977042785976D+00
                                          log_free_e =    -4.8467875011955802D-01
                                              chiRho =    -2.4538969118840153D+00
                                                chiT =     1.0938669339438000D+01


 do_eos_for_cell k, nz         196        2563
                                              logRho =    -3.0206115295715935D-01
                                                logT =     4.8275846172636419D+00
                                                   z =     7.9314645944486406D-01
                                                   x =     1.1031262053683091D-73
                                                abar =     9.1200845152431729D+00
                                                zbar =     4.5600178500854414D+00


 s% eos_rq% tiny_fuzz   9.9999999999999995E-007


STOP store_eos_for_cell
DATE: 2021-02-12
TIME: 09:34:22



-----Original Messages-----
From:"Jeremy Sakstein" <sakstein at hawaii.edu>
Sent Time:2021-02-11 18:43:31 (Thursday)
To: "Rob Farmer" <r.j.farmer at uva.nl>
Cc: "Jing-Ze Ma" <mjz18 at mails.tsinghua.edu.cn>, mesa-users <mesa-users at lists.mesastar.org>
Subject: Re: [Mesa-users] ppisn problem for version r15140


Hi,


That does actually sound like the problem I was having, but as Rob said, you haven't given us enough information to help you. The files I sent with that email were before the problem was solved so they won't help you test/fix this so I suggest you look at the advice Pablo gave me in that thread RE overshooting and changing it to either top only or core only (both worked for me).


Your inlists and run_star_extras look like the defaults, the only difference I see is that you set rotation to zero. You may want to turn off the rotation flag if you don't want rotation.


Cheers,


Jeremy


On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 10:37 PM Rob Farmer <r.j.farmer at uva.nl> wrote:

Okay, so we need more information to be able to help you.


What's limiting your timestep? Have you tried changing some timestep controls to see if that helps?

What is your star doing at this point in time? It is stuck during a pulse? During the relaxation process after a pulse? Between pulses?  This is where making plots to see what the star is doing can help you.



Rob







On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 at 09:27, Jing-Ze Ma via Mesa-users <mesa-users at lists.mesastar.org> wrote:

Thanks Jeremy.


Yes. Apologies for the ambiguity.


The time-step is going to zero, but doesn't reach the lower limit
1d-20 seconds.


For most cases log dt falls to about -10 and the star doesn't evolve
after that. All the parameters on the terminal change very little so
I think it may be a lost cause. I just put a stop to it after running 
a day on 4 cores.

-----Original Messages-----
From:"Jeremy Sakstein" <sakstein at hawaii.edu>
Sent Time:2021-02-11 15:00:14 (Thursday)
To: "马竟泽" <mjz18 at mails.tsinghua.edu.cn>
Cc: mesa-users <mesa-users at lists.mesastar.org>
Subject: Re: Re: [Mesa-users] ppisn problem for version r15140


Thanks,


Can you also enlighten us as what you mean by "fails to converge"?


Is the time-step going to zero?


On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 5:37 PM 马竟泽 <mjz18 at mails.tsinghua.edu.cn> wrote:

Hi Jeremy,


Here are my inlist_ppisn, inlist_extra and run_star_extras files.

Also, am I keeping this conversation inside the list?
I'm still figuring our how to use the mailing list.


Thanks.


Best regards,


Jing-Ze





-----Original Messages-----
From:"Jeremy Sakstein" <sakstein at hawaii.edu>
Sent Time:2021-02-11 09:29:09 (Thursday)
To: "马竟泽" <mjz18 at mails.tsinghua.edu.cn>
Cc: mesa-users <mesa-users at lists.mesastar.org>
Subject: Re: [Mesa-users] ppisn problem for version r15140


Hi Jing-Ze,


It is likely you are having a different problem to me, since the problem I had was specific to objects with masses <40ish, and low metallicities.


If you send me your inlist and run_star_extras I can have a look for you if you like?


I spent some time looking at the masses you describe in r-15140 so I may be able to help.


Cheers,


Jeremy


On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 3:24 PM 马竟泽 via Mesa-users <mesa-users at lists.mesastar.org> wrote:

Hi everyone,


I'm trying to run the template_ST (Merchant & Moriya 2020 A&A)
with a few modications from test_suite ppisn so that it can
start to run in r15140.


I've tried initial masses of 70, 80, 90, 100, 130 solar masses
without rotation. So far only the 100 solar mass case evolved 
to its termination condition and reached a PISN. The rest just 
failed to converge.


I've noticed a similar question "Question about (relatively) low 
mass stars in the PPISN test suit" posted by Jeremy Sakstein. It
seems that Jeremy has found the way for ppisn to work in r15140.
But I only joined the mailing list yesterday, so I can't seem to 
open the run_star_extras and inlist files attached to that mail.
I'd appreciate it if someone could re-send me those files or give
some suggestions.


Thanks a lot!


--

Jing-Ze Ma
Undergraduate Student,
Tsien Excellence in Engineering Program (TEEP) 2018,
School of Aerospace Engineering,
Tsinghua University


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