[Mesa-users] inlist for ~2Ms star terminating on the TP-AGB, mesa v10398

amber lauer amberlauer at gmail.com
Thu Sep 6 13:54:05 EDT 2018


Hey Warrick, which SDK are you using?

Do you have any pgstar output from this point that you can share?

On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 9:39 AM Warrick Ball <W.H.Ball at bham.ac.uk> wrote:

> Hi Amber,
>
> Just to be sure, I copied your inlist into a fresh work folder from an
> unmodified copy of r10398 and it starts going through thermal pulses at
> the same point as my original run did.  The terminal output so far (model
> 34845) is exactly the same as I got before.
>
> So I'm really not sure what we've done differently...
>
> Cheers,
> Warrick
>
> PS:  Sorry about misreading the inlist you attached to your first email
> yesterday.  My confusion was 100% self-inflicted, owing to a mixup on
> where attachments were saved...
>
> ------------
> Warrick Ball
> Postdoc, School of Physics and Astronomy
> University of Birmingham, Edgbaston, Birmingham B15 2TT
> W.H.Ball at bham.ac.uk
> +44 (0)121 414 4552
>
>
> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018, mesa-users at lists.mesastar.org wrote:
>
> > Oh, I misunderstood.  Your email had a different inlist attached (when I
> > looked on the forum website, anyway) [1].
> >
> > I'll check in the morning if my run was actually doing something fishy
> but
> > that looks like it should work...
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Warrick
> >
> > [1]
> >
> https://lists.mesastar.org/pipermail/mesa-users/attachments/20180905/cbaceb76/attachment-0001.obj
> >
> > ------------
> > Warrick Ball
> > Postdoc, School of Physics and Astronomy
> > University of Birmingham, Edgbaston, Birmingham B15 2TT
> > W.H.Ball at bham.ac.uk
> > +44 (0)121 414 4552
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 5 Sep 2018, amberlauer at gmail.com wrote:
> >
> >>  I'm using an inlist created exactly to mimic your minimal inlist (see
> >>  below), with some file saving settings. Which SDK are you using? I and
> >>  some
> >>  of my colleagues are experiencing the same behavior with other models
> that
> >>  are known to go through extensive pulses, where it hangs on the second
> >>  pulse. I'm just trying to check all the options. Thanks.
> >>
> >>  &star_job
> >>
> >>    ! begin with a pre-main sequence model
> >>      create_pre_main_sequence_model = .true.
> >>
> >>    ! save a model at the end of the run
> >>      save_model_when_terminate = .true.
> >>      save_model_filename = 'TP_AGB.mod'
> >>
> >>    ! display on-screen plots
> >>      pgstar_flag = .true.
> >>
> >>  / !end of star_job namelist
> >>
> >>
> >>  &controls
> >>
> >>    ! starting specifications
> >>      initial_mass = 1.5 ! in Msun units
> >>
> >>      max_model_number=50000
> >>
> >>
> >>  / ! end of controls namelist
> >>
> >>
> >>  On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 3:56 PM Warrick Ball <W.H.Ball at bham.ac.uk>
> wrote:
> >>        Hi Amber,
> >>
> >>        In my run, the thermal pulses get started around model number
> >>        21000.  I
> >>        killed the run at model number 107063, which is the point by
> which I
> >>        counted 34ish thermal pulses.
> >>
> >>        This isn't really my area: I seldom evolve models much past the
> RGB
> >>        bump,
> >>        let alone beyond helium ignition.  I don't know which of the
> extra
> >>        controls might be holding you up!  That said, I'm not used to the
> >>        rotation
> >>        controls but it looks to me like you're creating a 0.98 Msun star
> >>        and setting the rotation rate to 204.8 km/s.  Is that not a bit
> >>        quick?  I
> >>        might be misinterpreting things.
> >>
> >>        Cheers,
> >>        Warrick
> >>
> >>
> >>        ------------
> >>        Warrick Ball
> >>        Postdoc, School of Physics and Astronomy
> >>        University of Birmingham, Edgbaston, Birmingham B15 2TT
> >>        W.H.Ball at bham.ac.uk
> >>        +44 (0)121 414 4552
> >>
> >>
> >>        On Wed, 5 Sep 2018, amberlauer at gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >>       >  Hey Warrick, just a quick question about your minimal
> >>       >  inlist_project.
> >>       >
> >>       >  Can you give me a rough idea how far you ran it before you
> reached
> >>       >  34 thermal pulses?
> >>       >
> >>       >  I ran the attached inlist, modeled after yours, and at 2.98e9
> yrs,
> >>       >  50K models, and a log L/L=~4, log Teff=!~3.6 it is still hung
> on
> >>        the second
> >>       >  pulse. FYI it stays roughly at that position for about 30
> >>       >  k models, see attached images. I'm running v 10398, sdk from
> >>       >  1/18.  Thanks
> >>       >
> >>       >
> >>       >
> >>       >  grid1_020000.png grid1_030000.png
> >>       >  grid1_020000.png
> >>       >
> >>       >
> >>       >  grid1_050000.png
> >>       >
> >>       >
> >>       >
> >>       > On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 3:17 AM Warrick Ball via Mesa-users
> >>       > <mesa-users at lists.mesastar.org> wrote:
> >>       >        Hi,
> >>       >
> >>       >        I realise this is basically resolved but the question
> piqued
> >>       > my curiosity.
> >>       >        In my relatively-limited experience of modelling post-RGB
> >>       > stars, I thought
> >>       >        low-mass MESA models usually started going through the
> >>       > TP-AGB without any
> >>       >        special input.  So I spun up a default run in r10398 with
> >>       > the following
> >>       >        almost trivial `inlist_project`:
> >>       >
> >>       >
> >>       >        &star_job
> >>       >             create_pre_main_sequence_model = .true.
> >>       >        / !end of star_job namelist
> >>       >
> >>       >
> >>       >        &controls
> >>       >             initial_mass = 1.5 ! in Msun units
> >>       >        / ! end of controls namelist
> >>       >
> >>       >
> >>       >        Sure, it's slow, but I left it running overnight and
> after
> >>       > 18 hours on 2
> >>       >        cores I count 34 thermal pulses.
> >>       >
> >>       >        Cheers,
> >>       >        Warrick
> >>       >
> >>       >
> >>       >        ------------
> >>       >        Warrick Ball
> >>       >        Postdoc, School of Physics and Astronomy
> >>       >        University of Birmingham, Edgbaston, Birmingham B15 2TT
> >>       >        wball at bison.ph.bham.ac.uk
> >>       >        +44 (0)121 414 4552
> >>       >
> >>       >        On Mon, 23 Apr 2018, mesa-users at lists.mesastar.org
> wrote:
> >>       >
> >>       >        > Hi all,
> >>       >        > Would anyone be able to point me to an inlist which
> >>       > generates a TP-AGB star (terminating during the thermal
> pulsations)
> >>       > that
> >>        runs
> >>       >        with MESA v 10398? I had success with the attached inlist
> >>       > ('inlist_tashibu_2017a') used by Tashibu et al (2017) in mesa
> >>        version 8118,
> >>       >        but it produces a number of parameter name and
> convergence
> >>       > issues in v10398. I have guessed at the appropriate changes when
> >>        MESA
> >>       >        points out a naming conflict, but have thus far failed to
> >>       > produce a converged model. One of my attempted adjusted inlists
> is
> >>        attached
> >>       >        as 'inlist_tashibu_editing_attempt'
> >>       >        >
> >>       >        > At the moment, I am not so interested in diagnosing why
> >>       > Tashibu's exact physical prescription no longer works, I would
> just
> >>        like to
> >>       >        be able to run a generic TP-AGB model *without* using
> one of
> >>       > MESA's pre-built prems models to start.
> >>       >        >
> >>       >        > Any insight is greatly appreciated,
> >>       >        >
> >>       >        >
> >>       >        > Meridith Joyce
> >>       >        > Ph.D. Candidate, Wilder Lab
> >>       >        > Department of Physics and Astronomy
> >>       >        > Dartmouth College
> >>       >        >
> >>       >        _______________________________________________
> >>       >        mesa-users at lists.mesastar.org
> >>       >        https://lists.mesastar.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-users
> >>       >
> >>       >
> >>       >
> >>       >  --
> >>       >  Amber Lauer
> >>       >  Postdoctoral Researcher
> >>       >  Triangle Universities Nuclear Lab
> >>       >  Duke University
> >>       >  amber.lauer at tunl.duke.edu
> >>       >
> >>       >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  --
> >>  Amber Lauer
> >>  Postdoctoral Researcher
> >>  Triangle Universities Nuclear Lab
> >>  Duke University
> >>  amber.lauer at tunl.duke.edu
> >>
> >>
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-- 
Amber Lauer
Postdoctoral Researcher
Triangle Universities Nuclear Lab
Duke University
amber.lauer at tunl.duke.edu <amber.lauer at duke.edu>
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