[mesa-users] Interesting behavior at the lower edge of the main sequence
Frank Timmes
fxt44 at mac.com
Sun Oct 23 23:50:01 EDT 2016
hi jon,
i’ll take a few of the numerous questions.
your results seem reasonable at a broad level, although its
challenging to say more without seeing the inlist(s) and any
run_star_extra.f90 .
perhaps these literature starting points will be useful to you
burrows et al, rev mod phys, 2001
https://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0103383
hayashi & nakano, ptp, 1963
http://ptp.oxfordjournals.org/content/30/4/460
section 7.1 of paxton et al 2011
http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/0067-0049/208/1/4/meta
fxt
> On Oct 23, 2016, at 7:32 PM, Jon Brase <jon.brase at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>
> I'm fairly certain I'm not the typical MESA user, in that I'm not using
> MESA as part of formal academic research, but just on my free time to
> satisfy my curiousity about stellar evolution.
>
> One of the things I've been looking into, which I haven't found any
> detailed treatment of in the publicly available literature, is the exact
> nature of the transition from the lower end of the main sequence to the
> high-mass brown dwarves. All I've been able to discover through reading is
> that the lower mass limit for the main sequence is around 0.08 solar
> masses and that the transition is fairly sharp, without a lot of details
> beyond that. I've been exploring this transition with MESA, and have
> gotten some very interesting results.
>
> I'll begin with a review of the dynamics of brown dwarves and main
> sequence stars as we approach the limiting mass from either side, then
> I'll describe the behavior that I've found at the limiting mass, after
> which, as I am not completely familiar with the physics involved or with
> MESA, I will have a few questions.
>
> Early on, everything in within a few percent of the limiting mass looks
> much the same: convective throughout, approaching the electron degeneracy
> limit on denisty, a large fraction of luminosity provided by burning H
> into He3, but still dependent on gravity to make up the balance.
>
> On the brown-dwarf side of the limiting mass, the object reaches the
> degeneracy limit, convection stalls as the gas inside the object no longer
> responds to changes in temperature with significant changes in volume, and
> the fusion rate drops off as the object is no longer able to maintain its
> internal temperature against losses through the surface by contracting
> under gravity. The fusion rate falls off so rapidly and so soon after the
> stall in convection that I thought at first that the latter was somehow
> causing the former, but it turns out that they are independent results of
> the rising degeneracy of the object that just happen to occur at around
> the same time (this will be important later).
>
> The stall in convection begins with the formation of a radiative zone
> around the core, which then grows swiftly inward until it reaches the
> center of the star and more slowly outward ("swift" and "slow" here are
> relative terms, as objects near the transition mass form a radiative shell
> around 100 Gyr after formation). Apparently temperature gradient in the
> core is enough to drive convection despite the rising degeneracy, and, of
> course, outside of the radiative shell degeneracy is too low to choke off
> convection.
>
> As we approach the limiting mass from below, the brown dwarf has more and
> more of its luminosity provided by fusion before it hits the degeneracy
> limit, and takes longer and longer to hit the limit.
>
> On the main-sequence side of the limiting mass, the star reaches the ZAMS
> before it hits the degeneracy limit, then degeneracy decreases as fusion
> heats the star up, with the HR track of the main sequence forming a more
> and more acute angle with the pre-main sequence track and the time until
> the star reaches the ZAMS getting longer and longer as the mass gets
> closer to the lower limit of the main sequence.
>
> This is where the bit about the cessation of convection and the cessation
> of fusion being separate consequences of increasing degeneracy in brown
> dwarves becomes important: stars just above the main sequence limit
> actually do see a radiative shell form, just as in brown dwarves. The
> radiative shell actually insulates the core (far from quenching it as I
> had first thought), and so for most stars in this mass range the radiative
> shell is quite transient: its formation immediately brings the star to the
> ZAMS, whereupon rising fusion output promptly reestablishes convection.
> However, in a razor thin mass range right at the main sequence limit, the
> formation of the shell does not bring the star to the ZAMS, but it does
> insulate the core enough that gravitational contraction is able to make up
> the difference between fusion luminosity and surface luminosity for a very
> long time, during which a significant amount of fusion happens. Just as
> with a brown dwarf, the core convection zone shrinks as the radiative zone
> grows inward, but as the object lingers in this state for trillions of
> years while still fusing, the shrinkage of the core causes a significant
> composition gradient to form across the radiative zone as He3:H ratios in
> the core rise.
>
> Finally, after 7 trillion years, the star reaches the ZAMS. Unlike more
> massive red dwarves, however, reaching the ZAMS does not reinvigorate
> convection, and the convective core continues to shrink, until the star
> has a fully radiative core. Without convection, the hydrogen in the core
> is not replenished, and as it is depleted, burning moves into a shell that
> moves outward as the star ages. However, thus far, temperatures in the
> core have been just sufficient to burn hydrogen, but have remained too low
> to burn He3, resulting in a core that is mostly He3. As the hydrogen
> burning shell moves outward, temperatures in the core become high enough
> to start He3 fusion and complete the pp chain, which causes convection in
> the core to restart for a while.
>
> As He3 is depleted in the core, convection dies down again, and He3
> burning itself moves out into a shell. Through all of this, the star
> increases gradually in luminosity, but more rapidly in temperature, so
> that its HR track takes a wider angle to its original pre-main-sequence
> track than a typical low-mass red dwarf. The track has a couple jogs in it
> near events like He3 ignition, but is fairly straight. When the star
> reaches an age of about 90 Tyr, however, the helium shell reaches
> approximately the radius at which the radiative shell originally formed,
> and, one of two things happens: either He3 fusion falters, followed by a
> general cessation of fusion altogether and a transition to a layered
> He4/He3/H white dwarf, or (actually the first case that I ran across) He3
> fusion transitions to an abrupt thermal runaway. This presumably happens
> because of the degenerate conditions and the fact that, unlike He3 burning
> in more massive stars, almost all of the hydrogen in the He3 burning shell
> has already been converted to He3, so He3 burning isn't limited by the
> rate of He3 formation. However, it is not obvious to me why this seems to
> suddenly develop after trillions of years of stable burning when the He3
> shell reaches a given radius, rather than happening with the initial
> ignition of He3 fusion in the core.
>
> During the runaway event, the power output of the He3 burning shell jumps
> by a factor of around 1e10 from around 1e-4.7 L_sun to about 1e5.3 L_sun,
> and the star begins an ascent up what I call the "green giant branch", to
> a maximum radius of about 0.5 R_sun (the radius before the flash is about
> 0.05 R_sun). I call it a "green giant" because the star grows continuously
> hotter as it grows in radius and luminosity, which would suggest the term
> "blue giant", but that already refers to something else (and the star
> never gets bluer than a K spectral type). When the star reaches the tip of
> the GGB, it has an inert, radiative core, is convective up from the region
> where the He3 flash occured up to the surface (at the beginning of the
> flash the radiative boundary is above the point where the flash takes
> place), and reaches a maximum temperature of ~4500K and maximum surface
> luminosity of 0.1 L_sun.
>
> The star then leaves the GGB on a track slightly to the right of it. It
> contracts in several pulses, with more minor He3 flashes ending and
> briefly reversing each contraction phase. Each contraction phase drives
> convection deeper into the star, moving the burning region further inward
> toward the core as previously inert regions receive fresh He3 and H.
> Finally, the star settles down into a fully convective object at about
> 1e-2 L_sun, beginning a sort of "second main sequence". Actually, the star
> only becomes fully convective if I have use_Ledoux_criterion off,
> otherwise a semiconvective region remains near the core which never fully
> mixes, but this doesn't make much difference to the final structure of the
> star; As with more typical red dwarves, convection eventually gives way to
> a radiative core as hydrogen and He3 are depleted, and the star finally
> settles into a He4 white dwarf phase, and the profile of nuclear
> abundances from core to surface is pretty much the same in the end whether
> full convection reached the core or not. Between the onset of the "second
> main sequence" and the cessation of fusion, about a trillion years
> elapses, in which time the star maintains a fairly constant luminosity,
> moving straight left on the HR plot and crossing its previous GGB track.
>
> The transition from brown dwarf to minimal main-sequence star to
> traditional red dwarf is very sharp for a given initial composition and
> set of starting parameters, on the order of a millionth of the mass of the
> star (meaning less than one Earth mass!). As such, the variation in the
> mass at which the transition occurs varies with changes in the composition
> of the star or simulation parameters such as the number of grid points by
> an amount much greater than the width of the transition. Probing the
> dynamics of the transition is complicated by the fact that the simulation
> seems to be rather "noisy" with respect to changes in mass on the order of
> the width of the transition: masses over the transition mass can be found
> that evolve into brown dwarves in MESA, masses under the transition mass
> can be found that evolve into traditional red dwarves, and so forth. I
> believe the reason for this is quantization noise due to finite grid
> density in MESA, and this brings me to my first two questions:
>
> First of all, given the quantization noise, how trustworthy are my
> findings so far? I seem to be getting fairly consistent results as far as
> what the minimal main sequence star looks like (in terms of structure,
> evolution, and lifetime) when I change composition and simulation
> paramaters and find the transition mass for the new setup, so I'm inclined
> to think that what I'm finding represents something that actually happens
> for stars on the edge of the main sequence, but I'm bothered by the
> noisiness of the results. Even if my findings to this point are
> trustworthy, it would be nice to be able to characterize the behavior of
> the transition region with more resolution with respect to mass than the
> quantization noise I'm presently encountering allows for (e.g, are there
> masses for which the star reaches the main sequence, but He3 burning never
> begins? In stars for which the He3 flash occurs, does it occur at
> different depths for different masses?).
>
> Secondly, what's the best way to increase the fidelity of MESA's results
> under very small changes in mass? I assume increasing the grid resolution
> is going to be a big part of it, but is there anything else I'd need to
> do? Are there any insurmountable obstacles I'm likely to encounter (i.e,
> is there good reason to believe that MESA is not capable of delivering
> good results for such small changes in mass whatever simulation parameters
> are used?).
>
> Beyond these first two, I have several other questions:
>
> As I've stated, I've been using MESA to satisfy my curiosity because I
> wasn't able to find much on this subject in the publicly available
> literature. Has there been research done in this direction that just isn't
> available to the general public or is otherwise obscure, or is this
> something that just hasn't attracted a lot of interest (for example,
> because the timeframe at which lower main sequence differentiates from the
> upper brown dwarves is on the order of 10 times the current age of the
> universe, or because the transition is sharper than currently available
> simulational tools can resolve)?
>
> I'd also like to ask what physics needs to be taken into account in a star
> such as what I described above. I assume, given the fact that the star's
> pre-main sequence and early main sequence life is characterized by the
> progressive failure of convection in the core, that mixing parameters like
> semiconvection are probably important, but not being a professional
> astrophysicist, I'm not quite sure of their importance in this scenario or
> what sane values for them would be. In particular, whereas many parameters
> for MESA have non-zero default values, which gives me an idea of what is
> normal, alpha_semiconvection and thermohaline_coeff default to 0 (which I
> take to mean "don't model these processes"), which makes determining sane
> values for them more difficult for the non-initiated.
>
> Regarding the pgstar Power window, I assume that the reaction categories
> shown are taken from the "Category" column in
> $MESA_DIR/data/rates_data/reactions.list ? Is it safe to change category
> names in that file, or are they used for physics as well as display (for
> example, if I put he3 burning in its own category instead of in the "pp"
> category, would it affect the application of mesh_dlog_pp_dlogP_extra)? I
> ask because of the way that H->He3 burning and He3->He4 burning end up
> happening in separate regions of the star in this scenario, which would
> make it nice to be able to have them categorized separately in the Power
> window.
>
> Finally, does my description of the evolution of a minimal main sequence
> star pass the smell test? In other words, as a layman with interest in the
> subject, I can identify the physical processes behind the various stages
> the simulated star goes through, and it all seems fairly straightforward
> from what I know of the physics, but is there anything that makes someone
> with more expertise say "wait a minute, this process isn't modeled, and it
> would make that phenomenon not happen, which would totally change the way
> such an object would evolve", or something to that effect? The two things
> that I think have the most potential to elicit that reaction are the weird
> timing of the He3 flash (why does He 3 burning begin stably, proceed for
> trillions of years, and then suddenly turn into a thermal runaway?) and
> mass loss due to stellar winds (the transition region between classical
> red dwarves and classical brown dwarves is less than an Earth mass across.
> Is it realistic that a minimal main sequence star would lose less than an
> Earth mass over trillions of years?).
>
> I look forward to hearing back,
>
> --
> Jon Brase
>
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